Arma 3: Tactical Realism Feedback Thread - CLOSED

Morrow.J said:

Myself and several guys went to do some side missions last night and we noticed that even a disabled enemy vehicle was tracking us through the mountainside rocks and terrain. The vehicle was able to track us and was fixed on our position within a moment or so after we were in its “Line of sight” also in addition to that it was extremely accurate. I think we could consider decreasing vehicles accuracy a little bit and do something about vehicles tracking us through terrain and staying locked on us despite the whole squad being behind terrain. Big issue that was frustrating to several players. Also the amount of enemy armor at side missions seemed high. Perhaps decrease that by one or two pieces as side missions are supposed to be doable by squad sized or less

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Liber.N said:

I too think Liberation is better and more fun overall, however it does a poor job showcasing the Cav and its play style. Due to its dynamic nature and abundance of different mechanics it made it hard to run MCC's or even section practices.

The purpose of the server is to showcase the Cav and recruit new players, but you take a closer look you will see that Liberation game loop almost completely contradicts Cav play style. I will give you a few examples:

• We don't do logistics.
• We don't focus on asset preservation.
• We don't do resource management.
• We don't do any base building.
• We love to have all assets available all the time.
• We love the mighty Zeus.

Liberation is about progression. Sadly the Cav can't/don't want to do progression, we always need the hottest toys all the time. The only game mechanic that Liberation and Cav share is shooting the enemy and blowing things up.

I think Domination is decent game mode, at least for the recruiting competition month.

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Citarelli.D said:

So it's really simple. Just rip out the logistics aspect of it. It shouldn't really be that complicated. I'm more than willing to bet that it's all stored in some init. I could even help with this if you wanted. Rip out the logistics aspect of it and I think you're golden. Idk about Zeus but in sure we could work something out.

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GitHub - 7Cav/Liberation: 7Cav variation of KP Liberation for Arma3

7Cav variation of KP Liberation for Arma3. Contribute to 7Cav/Liberation development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Citarelli.D said:

So it's really simple. Just rip out the logistics aspect of it. It shouldn't really be that complicated. I'm more than willing to bet that it's all stored in some init. I could even help with this if you wanted. Rip out the logistics aspect of it and I think you're golden. Idk about Zeus but in sure we could work something out.

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• Added KP Player Menu
• Removed T-14 from enemy spawn list, that thing is OP.
• Reduced amount of enemy armor on main AO and side missions.

Liber.N said:

Its not a question of how to do it but why. If you rip out logistics then all you have is running around capping sectors.

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Citarelli.D said:

So I was on the mission tonight and I'm happy to say that it's pretty devoid of bugs. I must say it's a stable working mission file and it's pretty good in its own respect. Personally, I just feel like we're taking a step back and going to what Bojan and Vex made over a year ago. It's "go here kill this, rinse and repeat" style gameplay and people are gonna get really bored of it just like they did the old files. It's why we avoided invade and annex for a while. Liberation wasn't perfect, my file wasn't perfect, and this file isn't perfect, but at least Liberation and my file offered some variety. You had to choose where you went and what you did when you got there. Personally, I like the ability to choose where I attack with my squad, because it gets me more immersed. Personally, I like planning stuff like this but then again not everyone does so maybe I'm the weird one here.

This is perfect for when you want to come on, play for an hour, and then leave when your playtime is over. This file is literally perfect for that. In fact, if that's the type of experience that you want, then you hit the nail on the head with this one. This file is very suitable for that style of gameplay.

Maybe my squad and I are odd men out and have different tastes than the rest of the people playing. However, to me, this just feels... like a casual game mode. Additionally, to be honest I'm not a fan of casual gameplay. I don't hop in an operation and play casually, I hop in an operation and bring my A-Game, and everyone who joins my squad with me knows what I mean. If I wanted to play casually I'd go play COD (which I don't own).

I've been in this chat for a while saying this, but I know it's easier said than done. So if you need help in any way, I can try to assist you. I know a little SQF and SQM and have reworked Bojan's mission file quite a lot when I had it. Like I said, if you want help with it or if you want me to put my money where my mouth is, then simply give me the GitHub link, authorize my user, and I'll submit a PR for you with my changes. This isn't an idle offer, I'll put my money where my mouth is and help out if you want me to (but only if you want me to).

As I said earlier, the mission file has very few bugs (personally I ran into none with this play-through) and it's decently well polished. It's perfect for casual sessions. I just don't like casual gameplay. But then again, not everyone is me and you guys have more information than I do, so this is the last time I'll mention it.

TY for reading, I hope you're not discouraged by what I said. I'm just giving feedback, however negative it may be. I hope you ponder it and consider my offer. Thank you and have a great day.

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Sypolt.R said:

I'm not exactly sure what it is you're after other than going back to liberation full time.
Liberation without logistics would just be Domination lite.
Domination allows you to select the next sector on mission start and after each sector is captured.
Logistics preventing people from being able to hop on and play for an hour when they felt like it was one of the biggest complaints people had with Liberation.

As for working on the file I linked you the liberation GitHub already, the domination is also on the 7Cav GitHub. You don't need any special permissions we always accept PRs from anyone willing to put in the time to help.

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Tharen.R said:

but anyone with zeus (SL’s+) are welcome to run things on the public server when there’s no S3 presence or plans already.

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Sweetwater.I said:

Reminder to all SL/non-S3 Staff.
Running MCC's and non-Section Practice events requires explicit permission by S3 Public Staff. (For Public Servers)
Don't get caught running un-official operations or running public events without permission, you could loose your access.

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Mazinski.H said:

Yeah, get permission or else I'll steal your kneecaps

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• Extend radius of where a player has to be to stop enemy respawning at barracks. (Feel like the amount of enemies respawning is too much, was holding the tower with a camp 50 meters away and they just kept respawning so I didn't even get the chance to blow it up)
• Give points when you blow up the barracks/radio tower (10/15 points). If there is even an system that detects who blew it up.
• Moar small vehicles to get to places if there isn't an chopper and you don't want to paradrop because ME IMMERSION.

• Kept respawning on the roof in the Lythium map. No idea what triggered it or how to recreate it.

Knights.Z said:

Can we get some concrete guidance on this please? Getting very mixed messages from you guys.

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